November 4, 2015

Licensing Liberty


The P&Z department has sent out the “Business License” package for 2016. This is the first time in 3 years that the license renewals have been sent out before late December! Kudos to P&Z!

However, there are a few new things added this year to the application packet that seem to be contrary to county code and possibly state law.

At the BOC meeting 11/2/15, Mary Patrick questioned the BOC about the addition of a $20 administrative fee on top of the license fee as well as personal information being requested. Watch here:

She also gave a copy of the business license application and the corresponding code sections related to her questions to the BOC. See copy here: Business License & Codes

Why is the county now requesting a copy of your driver’s license, your incorporation papers (if you are incorporated), and emergency contact information? All the code requires is “a signed return attesting to the number of employees of such business or practitioner during the calendar year.”

We have a lot of identity theft everywhere. Personal information that is not needed should not be required. Additionally, the $20 administrative fee has never been and should not be required except in instances of late filings to “reopen the account” or for the “initial startup.”

When the BOC heard these questions, none of them responded, nor did the county attorney. It will be interesting to see if the County presses on with trying to get an administrative fee from everyone as well as a copy of their driver’s license and other personal information. The license fee is for nothing more than generating revenue.

Business owners (or any citizen) should not be giving out personal information and copies of their license unless it is absolutely necessary. In this case it is not—read the law. Also, be wise, pay with a check and not in cash when doing business with the County.





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  1. Jerry says:

    Gerri are you a government employee? Government people are always wanting more and more personal information. People are sick of it and sick of the ID theft that has exploded. As Natural Law says above, why are we required to get a business license to be able to work in Jasper County? This is about money for the county not about anything else.

    • Gerri says:

      You are NOT required to get a business license to work in Jasper County. You are required to get a business license to open a business in Jasper County. You are required to get a business license to open a business anywhere – this is not a new phenomena. And yes, I am a government employee and understand the importance of obtaining verification of who is applying for a license. What is amazing to me is all the talk of wanting Jasper County Government to move out of the dark ages and into the modern age and then the PNZ Department does something to move itself in that direction and they are vilified for it. Take the time to call around to other counties and see if Jasper is doing anything out of the ordinary in asking for ID from a Business license applicant. Do you similarly complain when having to show your driver’s license or State ID to vote or to a police officer, when you cash a check or use your credit card? There are so many big issues that need to be addressed and rectified in Jasper County and the City of Monticello – and this isn’t one of them.

      • Back to the Dark Ages says:

        Increasing restrictions one’s right to work via licenses, fees, permit and tax is not coming out of the dark ages, but returning to the era of serfdom. Statism is the new Feudalism.
        And , yes, business licenses are a new phenomena.It’s only been in the last few decades that a license was required to start-up a business and furthermore, licenses to work are not required everywhere,There are counties in Ga and all over the country that do not require licenses to work .I don’t think it coincidental that since the county shred the citizens right to work , the local economy has steadily went down hill.It’s no wonder we are forced to import jobs using taxpayer money as bait. This is another new phenomena that will have unseen consequences and most likely not good ones.

      • Gerri says:

        The debate I have engaged in here is regarding PNZ’s new policy of requiring the applicant to show legal identification – not whether or not business licenses should or should not be in existence. Like it or not, they ARE in existence and if you want to open a business anywhere, you have to have one. Jasper County is NOT requiring you to have a license to work within the County. They, like every other municipality in the State, require you to have a Business License to open a business.

  2. Scrap Recovery says:

    Its the same thing they ask for last yr an past years to Prove u are legal in USA. Just the extra $20 is way the “good ol boys” raise money for their parties we dont know about!

    • taxdogs says:

      No, it is not the same. They have not requested copies of Driver’s Licenses in the past. If they want to see them, that’s one thing. Maintaining a copy in the county office is totally different.

  3. Gerri Yoder says:

    Giving a driver’s license is common in instances like this. It is used to verify residency and or to prove you are who you say you are. You have to provide your driver’s license to vote, to cash a check, etc., so I can’t see why this is problematic.

    • 10-4 says:

      It is problematic because it is not required and it is just most government nosy-ness. On top of that P&Z has not shown it can be trusted with any personal information or cash. Why should anyone have to give over personal information to PAY THE COUNTY? The tax commissioner doesn’t ask for ID when you pay her for your taxes.

      • Gerri says:

        You give over your personal information all the time. Paying taxes IS personal. The tax commissioner doesn’t ask for your ID when you pay your property tax because ANYONE can pay your property tax for you.

    • Natural Law Trumps Statism Everytime says:

      It is problematic, because the right to work is an inalienable right and granted by God. Inalienable means not to transfer.

      For some, to not acknowledge our God-given rights may not problematic, but for me as a Christian and a citizen of this Republic founded on the words of Jefferson, which declare we are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, there exists a major problem..

      If the county can issue right to work license, the by reason, the county can take your right to work away. For the county to issue business license at all usurps the natural right of people to work and any other requirements (e.g. personal data, increased fee) just compounds the county’s assault on the natural law of God.

      “If men, through fear, fraud, or mistake, should in terms renounce or give up any natural right, the eternal law of reason and the grand end of society would absolutely vacate such renounciation. The right to freedom being the gift of God, it is not in the power of man to alienate this gift and voluntarily become a slave.” – Samuel Adams

      In addition, then there is the economic factor to be considered. There are studies galore that show with the increase of government regulations there has been a marked decrease in economical activity amounting to trillions of dollars of lost revenue. Therefore, the growth of government control not only countermands a gift our Creator , but flies in the face of good economic sense as well. Problematic? I should say so.

  4. Flabergasted says:

    The license fee includes administration fee. Get a grip P&Z and BOC. You will not get
    My personal info nor two fees!!!

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